AS Gebúr; Bauer; Neighbour


Could anyone of the sci.lang big "mentors" explain the relation between Serbian word naseobina (settlement) and English inhabitancy? In addition, what the words neighbour, Ger. Bauer and Serb. seljak (peasant) have in common?

You take no interest in the answer anyway. But let it be known that the -o- in naseobina is related to l, so the stem word there is -sel-, which occurs in Russian as -sel- and in Polish as -siedl

My congratulation! You are absolutely right about the sound l; naseobina comes from naseob(l)ina; i.e. from (g)na-heh-b(l)i-(g)na; but you are not right when you conclude that German Siedlung (settlment) is directly related to the Slavic/Serbian selo (Russ. selo). Slavic selo is a form of the word se(b)lo and na-seob(l)ina (cf. Serb. soba (!) room). On the other side, German Siedlung (settlment) is derived from the same primal Gon- Bel-Gon basis, but with the quite different semantic. Namely, Siedlung is related to Serbian sed(a)lo (seat, saddle) and this is related to sagnuti (bend, bow); similar logic as among Ger. beugen, English bent and bed (Ger. Bett). It means that the lengthened-grade form for Siedlung is *sed- (not *sel-) and *sed-lo- is *sed-li-gn sufixed form (Serb. sedenje seating; sedlanje saddling).

If you compare Spanish hablar (speak) and Serbian govor-iti (speak) I hope you would be able to understand the way the 'bl' phonaestheme is used in building of stem words as well as an addition to the stem.

This is rather messy, apparently. Bjorvand and Lindeman mention ON/OIc 'salr' "hall" m. and 'sel' n. "cottage", OE 'sele' and 'sæl' n., etc.,

Trond Engen

That's OK. These words are derived from Gon-Bel basis; similar as Serbian koliba (hut) and kula (tower)

…find a common meaning "room, single building", and tell that it's not possible to sort out if it's an original i-, a- or s-stem. They cite Balt. sala f. "village" and Lat. solum "soil" as cognates, leading back to IE *sel- "settlement", but prefer to take Slav. selo *sed-lo-.

English soil is related to Serbo-Slavic zemlja (earth; Skt. samala / soiled/; OFrs. sulenge soiling; Serb. zameljan /soiled/, meljati / smear/; Gr. μελαινω blacken, to stain black). Of course, no one could understand these processes without knowing that Slavic zemlja (Russ. zemlя; Cz. země earth) is closely related to Latin globus and that Slavic selo is closely related to the other Slavic words as zemlja (earth) and nebo (sky). In order to grasp the secret of the development of language one need to aplly the Xur-Bel-Gon Human Speech Formula (HSF). The English word hamlet (home) is derived from the same basis (Gon-Bel-Gon) as zemlja, selo; cf. Russ. semья (simya; family).

Yes, I see. It's because "used in building of stem words" should be "used in bubbling of stream words".
Paul J Kriha

Slavic kuka, ugnuti, pognuti are the same words as English hook and bend (German beugen). Compare Serb. počinjati, Russ. načatь, načinatь; Slov. začínať, all with meaning "begin", and you will "see" that these words are po-, na- or za- prefixed. These verbs are connected to the nouns pogon (drive), nagon (impetus), izgon (exodus), iskon (origin, bginning). Following the logic you used in case of Slavic, I do not understand what is priventing you to apply the same "pattern" to Germanic be + ginnan.

I know you are not as stupid as you look and that you are far more intelligent than our copy/paste Brainy: – compare Latin generatio (from genero beget, produce, bring to life) and Serbo-Slavic narod (people) and, I hope, you will finally be able to understand why the words as Serbian porod (birth) and English birth (Latin partus) are most closely related.

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