Maybe, it could be interesting to see if the name of Nordic god Ymir is in any way related to Slavic word mir (Serb. mir peace; Russ. mir world, peace).

First, there is the Hindu deity of death called Yama, also known as Yamarāja, who may be related to Ymir. On the other side is the Serbo- Slavic word umor (death, tiredness, fatigue; Lat. mors, mortis death; Skt. mṛtya death), wherefrom the other Serbian words as umirati (die), izumirati (extinct) and smrt (death) are stemming. Slavic word smert (*sъ-mьrtь) is closely related to Slavic mir (peace) and the verb smiriti (appease, pacify, placate, moderate; OSlav. sъmѣrenъ quiet, pacific); i.e. Slavic *smert- (death) is a direct derivation from the word mir (peace); smiriti (appease) => smrt (death).

Now, let us try to compare Sanskrit nirvana (extinction) and Serbian umirivanje (calm someone/something; make quiet). It seems that Slavic mir comes from nir (n => m phonetic change; unirivanje => umirivanje; Skt. nirvana).

It is supposed that Slavic word miro is a loanword from Greek μύρον (sweet oil, unguent, perfume); but it sounds very unusual if we try to translate the Serbian compound word miro-pomazanje (anointment). Namely, Serbian miropomazanje is the Christian custom of anointing with holy oil (Serb. sveti mir = holy oil) used during infant baptism. Wouldn't it be more logical if we said that Jesus is God's Peace Child (in Serb. dete Božjeg Mira; Božji Mir = God's Peace) and that anointment symbolically denoted the parental wish that God would bring paece to the infant? The most important thing parents would like to see is that their child is protected by god and raised in peace (Slavic mir = peace).

Slavic goddess of death, Morena (Morena, Mara) is the same goddess of death, known in Hindu and Baltic mythology under the name Mara. Obviously, all the above words are related to the Serbo-Slavic word umiranje/morenje (dying; Serb. umoren killed).

As we can see, Ymir also was killed (Serb. umor-en) and, on the other side, Ymir's body was the "starting material" for the creation of the world (Russian mir /world/).

Ymir was created from the melting ice of Niflheim (misty house/House of the Heaven; Nebeska Kuća in Serbian; Nebeška Hiša in Slovenian; Nebel/Nebula Haus!)

The -r of Ymir is the masculine nominative case ending.

Trond Engen

Of course! But Slavic mir is a compound word. Slavic mir (peace) is obtained from a compound word umirenje (pacification, mollification); similar umi-rati => mreti (pass away, die). There is Serbian word jama (hole) and jamar (once again JAMA-R) is a man who is digging the holes and jama is also a synonim for grave (jamar gravedigger). I suppose that Sanskrit Yamarāja is equal to Serbian jamarenje (digging of holes). Serbian phrase "završiti u jami" means "to end one's life in a grave". In fact, Serbian jama is a distant cousin of words as Serbian zemlja (earth), gomila (heap), kamara (heap), hum (mound) and English hole and hill. I was talking earlier that a great number of words was developed from the same basis from which their antonyms had also been derived.

If you are able to grasp the relation among English words hill, whole, hole and hell you are on a good path to understand the way in which the human speech has benn developed. And you could call yourself an expert if you were able to understand the relation among Serbian words uzimanje (taking), izneti (take out), AS ge-nimen (to take, move an object in the hand from its place, to pick up), Serbian zemlja (earth), jamljenje (taking), hum (hill), English hill,heap, globe and a thousands of other words I have no time to mention now.

I'd rather think of the compound Yama + rāja, meaning king Yama.


You are right Joachim! It could be taken as raja or rex (king) too, but if you could understand that raja/rex is related to words as range, rank, and Serbian red (row), rad (work) you would also seee that my Xur-Bel-Gon formula (HSF) is not a product of an exuberant imagination. I talked many times about the primeval Hor-Gon basis, which gave us the words as circus, Serbian krug (circle), kretanje (movement), uređenje (arrangement), rađenje (work). You must understand that words like urge, work and Serb. rad are clearly related; i.e. Lat. urgeo is the same word as English work or Serb. vergati (work). The u => v phonetic change is clearly visible and this is another example that there was no word in IE languages that started with the vowel in initial place (horgon => uorgon => work; ON yrka). Now, I thing you are able to conclude for yourself that English year is nothing else but "circle" (from Hor-Gon basis; Serb. krug. Greek krugos) were from we have Eng. "hour" (Lat. hornus "of this year"; Greek hora; Serb. ura hour etc.).

I can't help thinking of "yammer" and "jabber". 🙂
"Yammer" <– Old English "geo:mrian" to grumble, complain; OHG "ia:mar" misery, lamentation; ON "amra" to howl.

Paul J Kriha

These words are related to Serbian žamor (murmur, babble, unrest); all comes from Gon-Bel-Hor basis: Spanish hablar (to speak, talk, Serbian govor (speech), zboriti (speak), žubor (purl, babble).

As you see, Serbian žamor could be compared to ne-mir (unrest), nemiran (restless, turbulant, unquiet) is maybe the same as OE geomrian.

The sons of Bor carried Ymir to the middle of Ginnungagap and the world was made from him. Therefore I think it could be related to Russian mir (world).

The primordial "pre-world" state is described in three levels: Muspel (fire), Ginnungagap (abys) and Niflheim (realm of mist). Ginnungagap is a gap (Serb. zjap) or sinus (Serb. zinuti yawn) or Serb. zinuti zjap (yawning gap); The history of the word nifl (mist, nebel, nebula, cloud; Serb. nebo sky) is well known; but the etymology of the word Muspel remains "unknown"; maybe it is related to Serbian vaseljena (cosmos, universe), podneblje (under-nifl, uder-sky, climate), Serbian village Paspalji (from bel-se(b)lje; cf. Serb. uspaljen fiery)?

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